Rank becoming Pointless?Follow

has anyone else noticed a growing number of people on the server who have decent rank, but when in a pt, it becomes obvious that they have no idea what they're doing? in the past, rank was the only sure way of knowing what you're getting when you toss someone an invite. now, it seems more and more people have been tagging along with high-lv.'s on their LS's in order to get rank.

example: i was leveling WAR on qufim island and the WHM, who i had been pleased to invite because he had rank 5, was quite possibly whe worst WHM i have ever had the priviledge of pt-ing with. he was spamming cure II almost the entire time, even when it was obviously not needed, to the point that 2 WARs and one RNG with WAR subbed couldn't keep the hate off him. he died. he died alot. and we died because he was dead.

i have been playing for 8 months and have raised 3 characters in ragnarok. in that time i've done nearly all the missions without any high-lv. help (with the exception of mission 9, thanks Oudey^^) and have spent lots of time helping others who really needed it to get the missions done. i find this rank-leeching really frustrating because it unbalances the game in so many ways. i wish there was a way of rating a player in other ways than rank.

Correct me if im wrong but,if your highest job is 37DRK (I can see that in your signature)How is that you have done nearly all the missions?Even the mission for Rank6 is level minimum required 55 ?_?

Yeah... I had a R5 Paladin in my pt in the Dunes who claimed he soloed it at 32 Sam... He was braging about being rank 5 and I informed him that I couldn't give any respect to someone who was power ranked by their LS. (He had already said 32 Sam was his highest job) And all he did was brag about how awesome he was and how he would never lose hate then we start to fight and me as a Taru Drk is constatly riping hate off him doing nothing more than normal attacks and 1 poison at the start of the battle... Rank never was good for anything. A person with little in the way of skills can still level high enough to get R5 and then level a low level job and still suck. I never trusted it in the first place.

I agree that Rank is *not a heavy indication of skill Level. It's a suttle heads up sometimes, but I have had my share or Poor PT based Rank 6-10's, and Other Super Thug Rank 2.

Alot of variables exsist to skew the Scale, such as:
Sleepy Player,
Alternate Character on Other Server (Ie Rank 1, but knows Renkei's),
Ect.

Basing a Pt on Rank alone can be like saying "That guy is a Good Player cause he wears FuBu" while your Monk is chillin @ work in Pajama Pants and Slippers ;)

clarification: i am on M12. i have done all missions with the exception of M9 alone or with a pt of ppl my level who also need to do the mission.

in any case, what i'm getting at is rank is something you should earn.

I'm on mission 12. I soloed missions 1-5, did the dragon mission with a pt, and soloed missions 6-8. I was going to try and solo mission 9 as ~43 pld but a high lvl drk offered to help when I got up to the last floor. For mission 10 I soloed the davoi part, snuck through the oztroja part in a pt, and killed one of the beaudeax NMs with 2 other people. ~63 MNK came and helped with the other one. I did mission 11 with 5 other people at my current lvl 50.

Rank has much less weight than it used to. It's not difficult joining a shout-out alliance and leeching your way to a higher rank. There are plenty who have done that...Level 58-61 Thiefs at Rank10? Give me a break.

Also keep in mind, even the very talented players who reach Rank10 might decide to switch countries. I know quite a few who have done so in order to experience the other storylines. I tend not to judge based on rank anymore. I've met Rank3 incredible players and Rank10 idiotic ones.

To the person who "needs" a airship pass... suck it up... I guess I get annoyed with all the people who start now and are handed everything or you joined our ls lets get you rank 5 at level 25 or 30. Seems retarded to me... Then again I started with the NA pc release when there was nobody to help us so I guess I just expect others to be self reliant as well...

The games changed a lot since then, rank yeah used to really mean something and there were no gil sellers taking all the nms or constantly doing teleports or mineing or whatever.

I can honestly say I've never really given much thought to another person's rank when inviting them to a party. Mainly because I play with some really good people who aren't doing the missions for one reason or another and staying at a low rank, even when they are more then capable of moving on. I usually make my judgements based on past experiences with that person that I or other members of my linkshell have had with them, taking into account, everyone has their bad days.

I hit rank 6 last night and my highest is 51 (3k from 52). I was going to do my af2 but a friend wanted me to come with them for rank 6. They needed an extra person and my back up healing, 2 hour and avatar buffs was good for that spot. Even at 51, Ifrit can do some nice damage with his 2 hour. :D I can't wait to get a little higher and go redo the fight with some friends who are quickly approaching it though.