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#52 Apr 24 2006 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
Why is everybody always talking about instant pyro?
I agree it is the best dmg ingame but it would be logical if we try to find another fire solutions like all instant cast abilites(I know it has been posted and we ARE trying,but id say:try harder), Im going to try this when Im higher LV, BUT for now,Im going to put some point here:
As it looks to me IAE is the coolest ability in game,Fireblast is the most dmg,CoC- the most useful ..... so:



Arcane Talents - 16 point(s)


Arcane Focus rank 5/5
Arcane Concentration rank 5/5
Improved Arcane Explosion rank 5/5
Evocation rank 1/1


Fire Talents - 12 point(s)

Impact rank 5/5
Ignite rank 5/5
Incinerate rank 2/2


Frost Talents - 23 point(s)

Permafrost rank 5/5
Ice Shards rank 5/5
Improved Frost Nova rank 1/2
Piercing Ice rank 3/3
Cold Snap rank 1/1
Arctic Reach rank 2/2
Frost Channeling rank 3/3
Improved Cone of Cold rank 3/3

I find this very interesting build!U can still use fireball as an opener or spamm it,kite with frostbolt rank 1...Can anyone give me some advice please?
thx

Edited, Mon Apr 24 02:23:03 2006 by ShadowNimph
#54 Apr 25 2006 at 6:41 AM Rating: Decent
^^^^^^^^^^

Is that wwcool?????

LOL
#55 Apr 26 2006 at 9:26 PM Rating: Decent
^^^^^
Are you retarded?????

LOL!!11!!11!!!
#57 May 03 2006 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
im a new mage and wondering.... i love the 28 arcane 23 frostbuild but im new at the game so should i start of primarily in arcane or in frost plzz answer
#58 May 04 2006 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks for keeping it up, filter.
#59 May 04 2006 at 5:45 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks Baron,

I sympathize with your position and share the same views; however I sorely missed your stickies! Any thoughts if you will update sticky after 1.11 comes out? Thanks for bringing this back!
#60 May 04 2006 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
I love the builds and I think I would like to try out a couple of them near end-game. However, I am curious to know if anyone has suggested builds for getting through the 20's, 30's and 40's the fastest. Re-speccing once or twice along the way is fine ... so if you have a different build for 20-35 than 35-40's, that's fantastic. I guess this is more of a challenge to people that like coming up with builds, because you only have so many talents to pick from in your 20's, and only a few more in your 30's. Thanks to anyone that responds to this. I'm sure I'm not the only one curious about this.

-Monk.
#61 May 04 2006 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
for your 31 Arcane 20 Frost AP build, wouldnt it be better to get 2/2 actic reach and 1/3 arcane mind, rather than 3/4 arcane mind... Especially if you want to do any sort of BG, the range helps, gimme your ideas, plz, before i have to respec again >.> lol
#62 May 05 2006 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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If you would rather Arctic reach, feel free. My logic behind that is this:

If I have to be in range to nova them to proc shatter, artic reach does me no good anyway.

And more importantly, If you go 31 arcane for AP, then you can't put more than 20 into frost....

Yes I will be experimently extensively once the patch goes live to test multiple builds.

The stickie will probably be deleted for apprx one week whle I work everything out, then reposted for review by the other mages in here so we can get some solid builds doen up in the least time possible.
#63 May 05 2006 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
Here's some various builds for 1.11 that might need a couple of tweaks or so to perfection, but w/e.

PVP: Survivalbility Based

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RZVeM00cZiVcuMisz

PVP: Elemental Build

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RZVeMc0cuZVVcu0Vs

PVP: Elemental Crit Build

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RZVeMc0cutbAck0V

PVE: Frost/Arcane End-Game Raid Build

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RI0xzZZVVfuMAst

PVP/PVE: Pre-Endgame/Endgame Fire/Arc Crit Build.

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?kA0gzMZVeMcbcut

PVP: AP>PoM>Pyro Manapool Build

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?kA0gzMueoxgro0c

Edited, Fri May 5 21:12:59 2006 by wwcool
#65 May 09 2006 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
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The new calculator from wowhead is outdated.
#66 May 09 2006 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
I found out today.

Too lazy to post my prototypes.

Wait, edit out that lazy and put busy where lazy is.
#67 May 10 2006 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
Hey all. I am a 44 mage and thought i had my talents planned out to lvl 60. Than i saw that the new update will change a few things. I played around with a few different sets can came to two different ideas for sets that fit my playing style best. The first is basicly what i was going to use, but i dont spec evocation since they got rid of it. Also the second is a very iffy one. I have read that it is not to smart to spec both fire and ice, but i worked them out and it seems like it might work. But i dont really know since i cant really play around with them.

Basicly i like my full fire spec right now that i got down to 5/5 fire power, because i am able to solo stuff a lot easier and pwn in the battle grounds. So i know i want to keep the fire spec, just not sure if i should go arcane or not. In fact both of the fires are speced exactly like i have them now. Any ideas would greatly be appreciated. Thanks

The fire/arcane combo...
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?o0gVc0foZEgMzb0hx

The iffy fire/ice combo...
http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?kZEgMz0chxbuG0s0x

Yeah i noticed that they change the instant cast feature of the arcane exposion after i submiited so i changed the specing. I am leaning toward the arcane one though.

Edited, Wed May 10 23:56:19 2006 by flunzkar

Edited, Wed May 10 23:58:34 2006 by flunzkar

Edited, Thu May 11 23:10:38 2006 by flunzkar
#69 May 16 2006 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
the why wont he die is awsome! im only lvl 50 and dont have it completed but i own warrior's. whats the best crit u guys ever hit??

and with what spec?

mine is 837 with frost bolt

18 arcane and 23 frost atm is my spec
#70 May 17 2006 at 5:49 AM Rating: Decent
Ok, i think i found the build i want to use most, what do you guys think? Seems to eb well rounded for PVP and PVE.

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RZxgGz0cuLw0G0sbx
#71 May 17 2006 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
this is my idea of the best allround set up.

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?R0xE0obZZVVGccbtho

in pvp its more survivable and owns warriors, and rocks the instentces

so to me its best all around

want mad damage try this

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?kbxEcobsuEgMz

heres a another cool fire build

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?kbxE0oboZEgRz00ux

here is one for ppl that like elementalist, the high damge crit speacale.

http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?RZExMz0cuhVVGc00x
#72 May 24 2006 at 2:07 AM Rating: Decent
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you can also try reading this..

http://wow.ogaming.com/data/3276~WarriorStrategy.php

..first and make up you're self

Grtzz
#73 Jun 29 2006 at 4:27 AM Rating: Decent
How about this?


Ä°mproved Fireball 5/5
Ä°mpact 5/5
Ä°gnite 5/5
Flame Throwing 2/2
Ä°mproved Fire Blast 3/3
Ä°ncinerate 2/2
Pyroblast 1/1
Burning Soul 2/2
Critical Mass 3/3
Blast Wave 1/1
Fire Power 5/5
Combustion 1/1

Fire 35 Points

Frost Warding 2/2
Elemental Precision 3/3
Ä°ce Shards 5/5
Ä°mproved Frost Nova 2/2
Piercing Ä°ce 2/2
Cold Snap 1/1

Frost 16 Points

So that Frost and Fire gives each other also help to add chances to hit etc?
#74 Jul 06 2006 at 2:55 AM Rating: Decent

ffs, almost nothing changed about builds 1.11,only few more points to spend on stuff that supports your build,I really dont know why did u erase all those builds when it is almost the same....

look at those few last posts,those builds are the same as 1.10 builds,talents changed only slightly...
but filter that 3 specc PvP really interests me,it is wild if I may say,perhaps too wild,hehe it looks almost the same as one of rogues builds(in points spend)....
#75 Jul 06 2006 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, let's leave it the same when there are COMPLETELY NEW talents, you know, that didn't exist before?

Go read my post on the talent review, I said in there there weren't a lot of changes, but covered the ones there were.
#76 Jul 13 2006 at 2:31 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah,definetly completely new,and your post is quite well and detailed,and 1 time read is enough,thank you,This new aproach is good and efficient..I have nothing to say more....
but still u could only update your builds with those 2-3 talents that are changed...I was refering to that.Not that I mean bad things,I was just commenting

Edited, Jul 13th 2006 at 3:32am EDT by ShadowNimph
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