DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
what you mean to say ppl stopped teaching newbies how to do stuff all of a sudden and adopted the ffxiv mentality? I cant really speak or confirm/deny your statement sine the last time i played was after moogle kupo detata came out but before shannattots acension mini expansion hit
but considering FFXIs playstyle i seriously doubt getting a first timer through shinryu was impossible/hard
Here's why.
Prior to the completion of the Shinryu fight, a Primordial Brew (item that raised all stats to 9999 temporarily) cost 2 million cruor. After defeating the Shinryu fight, it was merely 200K cruor. Still a lot, but one person could farm that much cruor in a few days.
So a Shinryu "farm party" wanted 6 people with a primordial brew to solo him down, one at a time, for maximum farming efficiency. A Shinryu clear party still probably had at least one person who was using a brew, but if you didn't have 3-4 other good people who knew the fight, even with the cheat method of primordial brew there was a risk for failure since a brew only lasted for 2 minutes of god mode and he would take a lot longer than that to kill if the RNG screwed you over. (He only took damage during specific portions of the fight, and the rest of the time hitting him restored health. So doing a massive weaponskill at the wrong time during Primordial Brew god mode would restore him to 100% health.)
I'm not saying that it was
impossible to get a Shinryu clear as a pick up without a linkshell willing to help, but you were going to be shouting a hell of a lot longer for a clear party than you would for a farm party for that fight.