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#1 Sep 20 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
Okay, I use 2HS, I prefer this and has come up about Shields for Rangers in Second Slot.(not ranged slot).

I know late on asking this but never occurred to me before now.

1. Can a Shield be in Second Slot if you 2HS.

2. If the Skill of Bashing is not available to Rangers if 1HS or 2HS what is the purpose and is it just protection only?

Will buy a Ranger Shield if can use with 2HS in order to improve stats. Which does not seem logical if using 2HS but does seem logical if the Shield is just placed in that second slot for protection.

Hope this makes sense and thanks.
#2 Sep 20 2005 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Any two handed weapon will take up your primary and secondary slots. So, basically NO you wouldn't be able to carry a shield in your secondary. (some shields can be equipped on the back however).

Yes, since you're a ranger a shield would only give you stats and could not be used for bashing.
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#3 Sep 20 2005 at 9:13 AM Rating: Default
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HI YOU SHOULD NOT TITLE YOUR THREAD IN ALL CAPS. ITS KIND OF ANNOYING.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO WHEN YOU HOLD A 2H WEAPON IT TAKES UP BOTH SLOTS AS LOGICALLY IT WOULD TAKE BOTH HANDS. BASHING ONLY WORKS WHEN YOUR HOLDING A SHIELD.
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#4 Sep 20 2005 at 9:13 AM Rating: Default
No you can not equip a shield while using a 2HS wep. The only benefit to a ranger in equipping a 1-hand wep and shield would really be increased AC in most cases.
#5 Sep 20 2005 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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I will be an *** with this comment but I can't resist.

You have a level 65 ranger and didn't know the answer to your original post?
#6 Sep 20 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I think it would be sweet if you could hold a 2HS weapon in one hand if your STR was high enough...say like over 300 or something, so that only very high level people could do it. It would be sweet for someone to be able to hold two 2HS weapons.
#7 Sep 20 2005 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe a shroud with 4 arms?
#8 Sep 20 2005 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
No you arent an ***. I had decided a long time ago to follow the trail of my Pally and primarily use 2HS.

However, rather than doubt anything it is better to ask, up to this point never even considered a Shield for Ranger, then in group it pops up.

Really knew the answer to question for 2HS, just confirming it and frankly since 1HS weapons for Ranger are not good the choice was made a long time ago.

Have built up both bow and melee so that in any instance will do good damage.

And why not ask the question to get a confirmation. Is there any player who knows everything about everything this game especially since things keep getting nerfed.
#9 Sep 20 2005 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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Some sheilds have great stats and bonuses, with Bandolier you could easily equip a sheild plus one handers when you are attacking from range and when melleeing swap to your other weapon(s) of choice.
#10 Sep 20 2005 at 11:27 AM Rating: Default
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You have a level 65 ranger and didn't know the answer to your original post?


Seconding this.
#11 Sep 20 2005 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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2. If the Skill of Bashing is not available to Rangers if 1HS or 2HS what is the purpose and is it just protection only?
This one is a good question.

If you are the only other melee type in a group and your MT goes down, a decent shield will help you.

I'm a 61 warrior and there's still much I don't know about shields.

For example, is there some hidden mitigation bonus you get when using a shield? My little 38 AC shield seems to help a lot, but maybe that's perception. Some quick parses on SteelWarrior say "no" there is no hidden bonus, but for some reason there are some arguments about it. Maybe the help simply comes in the form of less mob ripostes and something little like 0.5% less damage from the extra AC.

Is there still something called an AC soft-cap? If I'm not mistaken, that's a point where additional AC gives diminishing returns. If so, do shields raise that cap? Some information posted from a few expansions ago says "yes", but I don't know if that's still true or even relevant (if the cap is so high now that it doesn't matter to normal players).



Edited, Tue Sep 20 13:05:15 2005 by JoltinJoe
#12 Sep 20 2005 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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I don't believe there is a "soft cap" in the game currently, or if there is it's far beyond anything currently possible - which will probably change in about 2 weeks once DoDH is completed and uberguilds get all the gear. Shields, to my knowledge, don't give any extra mitigation bonuses.

Having a ranger of my own, he hasn't carried a shield since, oh, 16? When do we get dual wield? I don't know if I would ever use a shield again as a ranger, but if forced into a tanking role then weapons with added AC would help. Such as parrying blades, greatwords, halberds or hammers.

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#13 Sep 20 2005 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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You have a level 65 ranger and didn't know the answer to your original post?


66 paladin too.... which for sure must gotta needa oughta shoulda used 1h+shield and/or 2h weapon sometime in the 66 levels.
#14 Sep 20 2005 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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the AC from shield goes above the softcap or whatever, according to a SK forum. that's why it's is so much desirable to add AC aug into shield instead of other armor slots.
#15 Sep 20 2005 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
If you had read my message, you would have seen that I have taken my Ranger down the same path as my Pally.

However, that said my Pally has always had the cability to do 1HS, Bash and 2HS.

This seems to be making your day and blown out of portion. Which is fine with me though a simple question and others have answered it.

The question was and has been answered was for my Ranger. After the discussion last night, I had wondered (for my Ranger) had I missed something or was this player talking out of his elbow.

Was posted as a simple question to make sure I had not missed anything for my Ranger as to protection and/or something new had been added to that Class and to have confirmation of what I thought was true. For my Pally in AA there is a Bash for 2HS available, so not that far fetched that Ranger might be able to use a shield while 2HS and I had overlooked it.

Duh, didn't get my Ranger (verging on 66, over 7K hp when buffed) nor my Pally (66, over 7.5K hp) by leveling in basket weaving.

My question was answered and the player last night was incorrect.

So, thanks for the good replies and letting me know that nothing had been added to the Class that I was not aware.

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