These are okay, but I think the HQ (+1) version of these are just about the best H2H weapon from 27 to 32. The +4 Acc is awesome, the delay is negligible, and the poison effect will kick in at least once a fight in the Jungles, which helps make fights MUCH faster. Also, your TP goes up at a RIDICULOUS rate, so you can do weapon skills at least once or twice per fight. They are kind of like Tropical punches, only better.